Moir Lockhead said quite a few other things, but as I was too busy trying to stop coffee going into my lungs and spraying my 5 fruit for the day all over the portable radio in my kitchen, I didn't have time to grab a pen and write it down.

Hopefully, the interview with Moir Lockhead will available as a "Listen Again" file on BBC Radio 4's website here, so that you can go and listen for yourselves later - there seems to be a time lag of about an hour between transmission and archiving.

Greg Wood's interview was trailed by a lot of PR spin about 'the biggest investment ever in Brunel's wonderful railway', which supposedly refers to FGW's re-engineering and refurbishment of the HST fleet. But that was just the taster to allow Moir to be interviewed by the business correspondent rather than the political correspondent - who might have asked some more difficult questions about how on earth the Department for Transport officials could allow a private company bidding for a rail franchise to be responsible for estimating demand. I mean, isn't there a slight conflict of interest there? Clue: bidding companies for franchises aren't responsible for estimating demand, that's supposed to be the job of the DfT.

A few minutes into the interview Wood stopped asking Moir the PR-scripted questions about FGW's new 'green' HST engines and 'leather interiors' and bowled him his flipper. Roughly it went: "Yeah well if everything in the FGW garden is so rosy, Moir, how come you've withdrawn 20-odd train units and your passengers in Somerset and Wiltshire are planning a fare strike in protest at the overcrowding and level of train cancellations?"

To which Moir responded: "We underestimated demand". There you have it, that is known as chutzpah! Just in case anyone missed it he repeated the same phrase a few minutes later.

I suggest the full interview would be worth listening to and transcribing because Moir Lockhead went on to make a number of additional rather important statements about investment and work going on with Network Rail.